Saturday, March 20, 2010

Steve Jobs: Adobe is lazy

My thoughts on Steve Jobs's comment.

I think Adobe makes really good software products and I am not going to write anything more than that. But I have been very disappointed where Flex support is concerned specially bug fixes. I come across a lot of bugs which have been reported but seldom fixed. Here are a few examples...

1. This bug was reported a year back. This is a very simple fix but nothing has been done even after an year.
FLEXDMV-2081

2. This was reported 6 months back. This is also a very simple fix but no action so far.
SDK-23388

3. The NetConnection memory leak has hurted one of the project I worked on. We had to extend the AMFChannel and SecureAMFChannel to do some cleanup.
SDK-24820


There are many such bugs that have never been fixed. Most of the times, Adobe gives a work around. Why aren't they fixing these bugs? I know many companies who got excited with Flex but eventually gave up and moved to other technologies. Adobe's support for Flex was one of the reason.

I am not sure if Adobe is lazy or Flex/Flash gets lower priority and budget compared to all the other products that Adobe makes.


Update 3/29/2010:
Judah Frangipane, another Flex blogger has a blog on a similar subject which is worth reading.
http://www.judahfrangipane.com/blog/?p=239

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6 Comments:

At March 28, 2010 at 8:46 AM , OpenID brutfood said...

Most Flex users are dumb sycophantic fan boys who won't listen to criticism.

I'm not - and I agree with you.

Steve Jobs also said that Adobe have the potential to do great things with Flash, and they just don't do it. Nowadays, Flash does things that HTML 5 doesn't - but the difference isn't wide enough. Probably because Kevin Lynch lacks imagination.

It saddens me that Adobe are so lazy, and they've failed to innovate fast enough during the decade that I've been involved with the Flash Platform.

 
At March 28, 2010 at 9:45 AM , Blogger Prashant Jain said...

brutfood,
Very true, Adobe could have done so much with the Flash platform that it would be impossible for HTML5 to catch up. Seems like, in the portfolio of all its products, Flash/Flex gets a lower priority and budget for enhancements and support.

 
At March 28, 2010 at 2:18 PM , Blogger flex said...

Hmm... That's not true... Adobe developers are not lazy. You will see in the work they have done in Flex 4. I agree that they do not take care of bugs and that's very troublesome. I do not know why. This may be Adobe management result. I have mentioned the problem with bugs not being fixed often. I do not know the solution to help Adobe prioritize bug fixes. Calling them lazy I don't believe will work.
PS i have done many things that i believe steve jobs was referring to about make flash better... see flexcapacitor.com and look at the feature list.

 
At March 28, 2010 at 6:48 PM , Blogger Prashant Jain said...

flex,
I am very disappointed with Adobe's approach to fixing Flex bugs. I have spent crazy hours trying to find and fix bugs that were already reported to Adobe. I am talking about Flex SDK bugs. In one case, I spent 18 hours on a bug which was already reported. Every Flex SDK bug I have come across is already reported but no action taken.

It is very very frustrating because every developer is kind of reinventing the wheel, going through the same pain and frustration that he shouldn't be. If Adobe doesn't do something quickly, companies will stop using this wonderful technology.

Very soon, I will be sending an email to the Adobe CEO regarding Adobe's support or no-support for Flex problems.

 
At March 29, 2010 at 7:06 AM , OpenID e2easy said...

@"flex"... I'm not talking about snazzy libraries, components or applications written using Flash / Flex / ActionScript. I'm not talking about Flex 4 components (besides, Flex 4 only looks really impressive because the Halo components were so awful.)

I'm talking about the fundamental capabilities and functionality of the Flash runtime. We waited a long time to get features such as filters, bitmap manipulation, encoding movieclips as jpg/png to save, access to the filesystem, flash on the desktop with access to native functionality (menus, windows etc)., spell-checking, text that flows from one container to the next, etc. I remember speculating about all these features when they didn't exist in 2003. It took so long to get to where we are now. In the meantime, our imaginations have reached so far beyond what Flash can do. Our visions seem untenable now. While Adobe, lurches and lumbers along dragging its knuckles along the ground.

But better speed and reliability would be a start.

But it's rude of me to lash out at Adobe's developers. I don't really believe that Adobe's professionals are lazy. It's about two things. Money and leadership. Quality costs money. And innovation needs to be driven from the top.

 
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